[TOS] Conference Call - Monday Sept 14 - 15:00 UTC

adam hyde adam at flossmanuals.net
Mon Sep 14 09:57:01 UTC 2009

On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:03 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
> As usual I will be unable to attend the call. However I would
> appreciate it if the legal situation for the book is discussed. Until
> these are resolved I (and possibly others) are unable to contribute.
> We have agreed, as a community, what the licensing model is to be but
> we have not put any structure into place to ensure that we can
> accommodate that.
> Summary of issues:
> a) licence on FLOSSManuals does not reflect licence agreed by
> community (and is a licence not recommended for text by its own
> authors http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyNotGPLForManuals)

there is no issue here. I said on this list and to greg, you can use
whatever license you want. 

> b) copyright is being accredited to an individual (not enforceable in
> many parts of the EU)

this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, i will give the
copyright to whoever you want me to

> c) copyright is (to all intents and purposes) assigned to the chapter
> author rather than licenced by contributor as agreed here

this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, do what you want
with attribution


> This is a ***blocker*** for me as a contributor. We have something
> like 50+ QAd articles ***already written*** and another 30+ written
> but not QAd. These resources span the majority of the proposed
> chapters and include supporting interviews and case studies. We
> publish around 15 new articles every year. I have scheduled half a day
> every week of our content editor (who is a professional content editor
> with 20 years experience) to work on integrating our work into the the
> book/
> The book would be considerably further advanced if we were to resolve
> these issues.
> For my part I don't care who owns the copyright in the collective
> works, but I need to be able to show our lawyers that the work is
> adequately protected under British law, that is I need to show that I
> have only licenced our contributions to the book and thus I can
> continue to use our work in any way I desire.
> Having it licenced by to us is not sufficient for our legal team. We
> need to retain copyright in our own materials and we need that to be
> represented in the legal documentation. This means we need contributor
> licence agreements as does any such project.
> I have volunteered to manage this process on behalf of the community,
> but we need to get the process in place before it can be managed. As
> soon as we agree who the copyright will be assigned to I will have the
> CLA drawn up. Those who don't care and are happy to assign copyright
> to the copyright holder can just proceed - the rest of us will need to
> submit a CLA. I will handle the paperwork and, if necessary, I will
> provide the University of Oxford as the owner of the copyright - there
> will be no further paperwork required in this case as OSS Watch
> already has the necessary infrastructure set up.
> Please note, this is not a "will write" but a "have written", situation.
> Ross
> 2009/9/14 Chris Tyler <chris at tylers.info>:
> >
> > Just a reminder that there's a TOS conference call Monday (Sept 14) at
> > 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT). We need to discuss (and invest some energy in)
> > some of our initiatives to make them succeed.
> >
> > Call info including codes is at:
> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call
> >
> > Proposed agenda is at:
> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call/2009-09-14/Agenda
> >
> > -Chris
> >
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