[TOS] Conference Call - Monday Sept 14 - 15:00 UTC

Ross Gardler ross.gardler at oucs.ox.ac.uk
Mon Sep 14 10:00:08 UTC 2009


These may not be technical issues but they are process issues. They
need to be resolved before the University of Oxford (and anyone doing
proper due diligence of IP) can contribute.


2009/9/14 adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>:
> On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:03 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
>> As usual I will be unable to attend the call. However I would
>> appreciate it if the legal situation for the book is discussed. Until
>> these are resolved I (and possibly others) are unable to contribute.
>> We have agreed, as a community, what the licensing model is to be but
>> we have not put any structure into place to ensure that we can
>> accommodate that.
>> Summary of issues:
>> a) licence on FLOSSManuals does not reflect licence agreed by
>> community (and is a licence not recommended for text by its own
>> authors http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyNotGPLForManuals)
> there is no issue here. I said on this list and to greg, you can use
> whatever license you want.
>> b) copyright is being accredited to an individual (not enforceable in
>> many parts of the EU)
> this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, i will give the
> copyright to whoever you want me to
>> c) copyright is (to all intents and purposes) assigned to the chapter
>> author rather than licenced by contributor as agreed here
> this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, do what you want
> with attribution
> adam
>> This is a ***blocker*** for me as a contributor. We have something
>> like 50+ QAd articles ***already written*** and another 30+ written
>> but not QAd. These resources span the majority of the proposed
>> chapters and include supporting interviews and case studies. We
>> publish around 15 new articles every year. I have scheduled half a day
>> every week of our content editor (who is a professional content editor
>> with 20 years experience) to work on integrating our work into the the
>> book/
>> The book would be considerably further advanced if we were to resolve
>> these issues.
>> For my part I don't care who owns the copyright in the collective
>> works, but I need to be able to show our lawyers that the work is
>> adequately protected under British law, that is I need to show that I
>> have only licenced our contributions to the book and thus I can
>> continue to use our work in any way I desire.
>> Having it licenced by to us is not sufficient for our legal team. We
>> need to retain copyright in our own materials and we need that to be
>> represented in the legal documentation. This means we need contributor
>> licence agreements as does any such project.
>> I have volunteered to manage this process on behalf of the community,
>> but we need to get the process in place before it can be managed. As
>> soon as we agree who the copyright will be assigned to I will have the
>> CLA drawn up. Those who don't care and are happy to assign copyright
>> to the copyright holder can just proceed - the rest of us will need to
>> submit a CLA. I will handle the paperwork and, if necessary, I will
>> provide the University of Oxford as the owner of the copyright - there
>> will be no further paperwork required in this case as OSS Watch
>> already has the necessary infrastructure set up.
>> Please note, this is not a "will write" but a "have written", situation.
>> Ross
>> 2009/9/14 Chris Tyler <chris at tylers.info>:
>> >
>> > Just a reminder that there's a TOS conference call Monday (Sept 14) at
>> > 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT). We need to discuss (and invest some energy in)
>> > some of our initiatives to make them succeed.
>> >
>> > Call info including codes is at:
>> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call
>> >
>> > Proposed agenda is at:
>> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call/2009-09-14/Agenda
>> >
>> > -Chris
>> >
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