[TOS] Conference Call - Monday Sept 14 - 15:00 UTC

adam hyde adam at flossmanuals.net
Mon Sep 14 10:07:15 UTC 2009


On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 11:00 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
> Adam,
> 
> These may not be technical issues but they are process issues. They
> need to be resolved before the University of Oxford (and anyone doing
> proper due diligence of IP) can contribute.
> 


well then i appreciate if you would say that your org requires things to
happen in a certain order because of internal policy issues rather than
suggest that FM is blocking the way. from my perspective you were free
to write in FM from the day i set it up. 

adam



> Ross
> 
> 2009/9/14 adam hyde <adam at flossmanuals.net>:
> > On Mon, 2009-09-14 at 09:03 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote:
> >> As usual I will be unable to attend the call. However I would
> >> appreciate it if the legal situation for the book is discussed. Until
> >> these are resolved I (and possibly others) are unable to contribute.
> >> We have agreed, as a community, what the licensing model is to be but
> >> we have not put any structure into place to ensure that we can
> >> accommodate that.
> >>
> >> Summary of issues:
> >>
> >> a) licence on FLOSSManuals does not reflect licence agreed by
> >> community (and is a licence not recommended for text by its own
> >> authors http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#WhyNotGPLForManuals)
> >
> >
> > there is no issue here. I said on this list and to greg, you can use
> > whatever license you want.
> >
> >
> >>
> >> b) copyright is being accredited to an individual (not enforceable in
> >> many parts of the EU)
> >>
> >
> > this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, i will give the
> > copyright to whoever you want me to
> >
> >> c) copyright is (to all intents and purposes) assigned to the chapter
> >> author rather than licenced by contributor as agreed here
> >
> > this is not an issue. i said on this list and to greg, do what you want
> > with attribution
> >
> > adam
> >
> >
> >>
> >> This is a ***blocker*** for me as a contributor. We have something
> >> like 50+ QAd articles ***already written*** and another 30+ written
> >> but not QAd. These resources span the majority of the proposed
> >> chapters and include supporting interviews and case studies. We
> >> publish around 15 new articles every year. I have scheduled half a day
> >> every week of our content editor (who is a professional content editor
> >> with 20 years experience) to work on integrating our work into the the
> >> book/
> >>
> >> The book would be considerably further advanced if we were to resolve
> >> these issues.
> >>
> >> For my part I don't care who owns the copyright in the collective
> >> works, but I need to be able to show our lawyers that the work is
> >> adequately protected under British law, that is I need to show that I
> >> have only licenced our contributions to the book and thus I can
> >> continue to use our work in any way I desire.
> >>
> >> Having it licenced by to us is not sufficient for our legal team. We
> >> need to retain copyright in our own materials and we need that to be
> >> represented in the legal documentation. This means we need contributor
> >> licence agreements as does any such project.
> >>
> >> I have volunteered to manage this process on behalf of the community,
> >> but we need to get the process in place before it can be managed. As
> >> soon as we agree who the copyright will be assigned to I will have the
> >> CLA drawn up. Those who don't care and are happy to assign copyright
> >> to the copyright holder can just proceed - the rest of us will need to
> >> submit a CLA. I will handle the paperwork and, if necessary, I will
> >> provide the University of Oxford as the owner of the copyright - there
> >> will be no further paperwork required in this case as OSS Watch
> >> already has the necessary infrastructure set up.
> >>
> >> Please note, this is not a "will write" but a "have written", situation.
> >>
> >> Ross
> >>
> >>
> >> 2009/9/14 Chris Tyler <chris at tylers.info>:
> >> >
> >> > Just a reminder that there's a TOS conference call Monday (Sept 14) at
> >> > 15:00 UTC (11:00 EDT). We need to discuss (and invest some energy in)
> >> > some of our initiatives to make them succeed.
> >> >
> >> > Call info including codes is at:
> >> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call
> >> >
> >> > Proposed agenda is at:
> >> > http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/TOS_Conference_Call/2009-09-14/Agenda
> >> >
> >> > -Chris
> >> >
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