[TOS] request for grant

Tue Feb 21 13:48:00 UTC 2012

Hi all.  A quick note re remixes. There's an Rit project called remixerator, you can use, which is based on another project called Dorrie, that simplifies the remix process.

It's in the process of being merged back to Dorrie but you can start here...

https://github.com/ear7631

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>   1. Re: Request for grant (Mel Chua)
>   2. Re: introducing an opensource related effort at Stanford
>      (Mel Chua)
>   3. SIGCSE TOS symposium: what's happening (Mel Chua)
>   4. TOS site redesign, heads-up (Mel Chua)
>   5. Re: TOS site redesign, heads-up (MJ Ray)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:04:14 -0500
> From: Mel Chua <mel at purdue.edu>
> To: "Dr. Rajeev Agrawal" <ragrawal at ncat.edu>
> Cc: tos at teachingopensource.org
> Subject: Re: [TOS] Request for grant
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> Rajeev,
> 
> You mentioned using Ubuntu (which is a mighty fine distro!) but I would 
> also suggest checking out Fedora's remix capability 
> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix, and Sebastian in particular knows 
> way more about it than I do, as do others on this list). Basically, you 
> can create an image with a custom package set, and have a 
> livecd/liveusb/etc with all the programs you want preinstalled already.
> 
> As for suggestions, my subset is below.
> 
>> Analytics: R,
> 
> Not sure if this is still within what you're looking for, but octave, scipy?
> 
>> Graphic Design (2D): GIMPshop, Cenon
> 
> Inkscape. Definitely inkscape.
> 
>> IDE tools: Eclipse
> 
> Vim and emacs? :D (Okay, okay...)
> 
>> Learning Management System (LMS):
> 
> Moodle is the most popular one, but this mostly makes sense for a server 
> image, not a personal use laptop.
> 
>> Productivity package: Openoffice,
> 
> I'd swap Libreoffice for Openoffice; if you want another lightweight 
> word processor check out Abiword (or teach your students how much you 
> can do with plaintext editors -- gedit is nice if you're GNOME-based and 
> want a graphical thing, otherwise nano/vi(m)/emacs).
> 
> IMO, the three most useful Libreoffice things are Writer, Calc, and 
> Impress, in that order (word processing, spreadsheets, and 
> presentations). There are other pieces of FOSS presentation software out 
> there but they tend to be a little bit more off the wall -- but if you 
> want to play with those, jessyink (sort of like prezi), Beamer (LaTeX), 
> and techtalk (built specifically for code-centric presentations).
> 
>> Project Management: ?
> 
> Are you thinking about things like Trac or Redmine? Those are 
> server-side as well.
> 
> I found http://www.ganttproject.biz/ to be fine for creating and 
> managing its namesake chart for a 9-month-long project, but this was 
> back in 2007 and I haven't tried it since. I've heard good things about 
> dotproject, phpcollab, and taskjuggler, but haven't used them myself; 
> there doesn't seem to be a category-killer here. Again, a lot of PM 
> tools for FOSS are web-based and more suitable to a server rather than a 
> desktop image. I'd love people to correct me here. :)
> 
>> Security: Wireshark, Nmap Security Scanner, WinSCP, Snort
> 
> Also check out the packages included on 
> http://spins.fedoraproject.org/security/ (click "List of all FSL 
> packages" on that page to get to 
> https://fedorahosted.org/security-spin/wiki/availableApps).
> 
>> Text Editor: vim, nano
> 
> gedit. There's also gvim (vim running as a GNOME app). I'm sure others 
> here will clamor for emacs.
> 
>> Video Editing: LiVES,
> 
> kino, kdenlive -- see also http://opensource.com/tags/video-editing
> 
>> Web Browser: Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox
> 
> lynx or some other text-based browser; knowing about the existence of 
> these has saved my butt a few times when I needed to get to a webpage 
> quickly and only had a terminal available.
> 
> Also, something like epiphany is interesting to see in contrast with the 
> very full-featured Firefox.
> 
> Btw, Chrome isn't open source -- Chromium is the open source project 
> Chrome is based on, so if you want to do truly open software only you 
> may want to include that instead. That having been said, even Chromium 
> has... issues. See http://spot.livejournal.com/312320.html for gory details.
> 
>> view. I will also write a paper/article based on my entire experience.
>> Let me know if anyone is interested in collaborating on this project.
> 
> I'd be curious about what you're planning for this one -- there are 
> several interesting school spin/remix projects that might be nice to 
> combine into one paper.
> 
> RIT, I'm looking at you. Sebastian, you might know about more, and have 
> made a fair number of educational spins and remixes yourself. I know 
> Olin had a Fedora remix customized to its campus setup for a while, and 
> I'm sure other schools have had the same -- perhaps something like "hey 
> schools, you can make your own Linux distribution, and here's how"? 
> Curious what prior lit on this might be.
> 
> --Mel
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:39:03 -0500
> From: Mel Chua <mel at purdue.edu>
> To: tos at teachingopensource.org
> Subject: Re: [TOS] introducing an opensource related effort at
>    Stanford
> Message-ID: <4F42D997.2030601 at purdue.edu>
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> 
> Hey, Jay! Sorry I'm so late to join the welcome party -- sounds like 
> you've gotten quite the reception already, though.
> 
>> Realistically, I expect a great deal of execution pain around making
>> this happen.  But, I think the potential payoff is so good for society
>> that I remain very motivated.
> 
> Oh, we can talk about this at SIGCSE for a long, long time. ;-)
> 
>> Current status: The first small step being taken is a project team
>> from one of my existing project classes is working on an existing open
>> source project this year rather a typical industry collaboration.
>> This has necessitated the grafting of curriculum typically used for
>> industry collaborations to something that fits an open source project
>> model. We are learning a ton about what is needed to make this work on
>> a bigger scale.
> 
> Would love to follow along with this -- do you folks have an IRC 
> channel, blog, and/or website somewhere?
> 
>> In the long term, I'd like to see my project teams at Stanford
>> collaborating not just with the open source project maintainers, but
>> working in teams that incorporate students at other universities as
>> well.  I think this will introduce all sorts of interesting new
>> dimensions to the experience...But, that's a long way from here.
> 
> You might be interested in http://ucosp.wordpress.com/about/. I think 
> Greg Wilson and some other folks from the program hang out around these 
> parts -- and I see Titus Brown on the faculty list as well, so even 
> though the program's based in Canada, US schools have certainly 
> participated.
> 
>> For now, I'm pleased to virtually be a part of this group. I imagine
>> and hope I will meet a number of you at SIGCSE in a few days. Please
>> don't hesitate to reach out if this sounds interesting.
> 
> Glad to hear you'll be joining us at SIGCSE -- when do you arrive? If 
> you're around on Wednesday we have a pre-conference symposium in 
> unconference format that you might find useful -- there's a BoF on... I 
> want to say Thursday (anyone?) and a workshop Friday night, and then of 
> course some individual TOS folks are giving talks and panels and 
> presenting papers and such.
> 
> --Mel
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 18:52:03 -0500
> From: Mel Chua <mel at purdue.edu>
> To: "'TOS List'" <tos at teachingopensource.org>
> Subject: [TOS] SIGCSE TOS symposium: what's happening
> Message-ID: <4F42DCA3.9010707 at purdue.edu>
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> 
> We're a bit over a week away from the TOS symposium (unconference!) at 
> SIGCSE
> 
> First: I know we have a lot more people coming than the list on 
> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/SIGCSE_2012/TOS_symposium#Who.27s_coming 
> indicates -- if you're registering, either edit the page to add your 
> name, or email me and I'll add it for you.
> 
> Second: the event is going to be unconference-style -- don't worry, 
> we'll explain this at the start the event itself (it's much easier to 
> explain in person). If you want a preview of what you'll be in for, see 
> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/SIGCSE_2012/TOS_symposium#Resources 
> -- the general idea is that in most conferences, the "hallway track" has 
> way more interesting conversations than the "sage on the stage" 
> presentations do -- so why not try to facilitate a lot of hallway-track 
> style interactions?
> 
> What this means in practice is that people come in with questions, 
> thoughts, projects, materials, etc, and then we go around the room doing 
> a rapid-fire pitch of our ideas at the start of the day, then take some 
> time to group common interests into session slots (so 3 people 
> interested in sharing various "FOSS for the humanities" ideas might 
> share a session, and 2 people presenting on capstone classes may share a 
> session -- and that is how the schedule's built). Think of a jazz jam 
> session translated into conference format and you'll mostly have it.
> 
> Third: Because it is unconference style, it's good to start thinking 
> about session topics you'd like to see now. Check out the current ideas 
> on 
> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/SIGCSE_2012/TOS_symposium#Proposed_Sessions 
> -- I know there are more things people are thinking of, so put them on 
> the page, toss them out on this list, and let's see what we can do. ;-)
> 
> Questions? Holler here!
> 
> -- 
> Mel Chua
> mel at purdue.edu
> PhD student, Open Source & Education focus
> Purdue University, Dept. of Engineering Education
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:37:17 -0500
> From: Mel Chua <mel at purdue.edu>
> To: "'TOS List'" <tos at teachingopensource.org>, Ian Weller
>    <iweller at redhat.com>
> Subject: [TOS] TOS site redesign, heads-up
> Message-ID: <4F431F7D.7090100 at purdue.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Mostly for Ian, but... trying to light a fire under my butt here too.
> 
> I'm working on a (static) frontpage redesign for TOS using pktb that 
> might give us something a bit more attractive to display before SIGCSE; 
> I don't promise it'll be done before the weekend, but if I put something 
> online (under some random URL) and the TOS community approves, how hard 
> would it be to get the TOS URL to redirect to it (and then take care of 
> the actual "do it right" file-moving later)?
> 
> My current tinkering-draft is up at 
> http://mchua.fedorapeople.org/tosredesign -- note that this matches the 
> theme at http://planet.teachingopensource.org. As you can tell from the 
> images, it's not anywhere near done.
> 
> Compare to our current front page, 
> http://teachingopensource.org/index.php/Main_Page -- I'm trying to go 
> for something cleaner that doesn't have such a huge header, so content 
> begins sooner than halfway down the screen.
> 
> The intent is to *only* replace the front page -- what you'd hit on 
> http://teachingopensource.org, essentially. The rest of it would point 
> directly to the Planet, wiki pages, etc. we already have.
> 
> If y'all think this is WAY too short notice to put something up, let me 
> know. It's just something we've been talking about for... nearly a year 
> now, and nobody's done it, and I was sitting in the lab late at night 
> and decided to take a stab. :)
> 
> -- 
> Mel Chua
> mel at purdue.edu
> PhD student, Open Source & Education focus
> Purdue University, Dept. of Engineering Education
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 10:04:27 +0000
> From: MJ Ray <mjr at phonecoop.coop>
> To: tos at teachingopensource.org
> Subject: Re: [TOS] TOS site redesign, heads-up
> Message-ID: <E1RzmaB-0006lc-KD at petrol.towers.org.uk>
> 
> Mel Chua <mel at purdue.edu>
>> My current tinkering-draft is up at 
>> http://mchua.fedorapeople.org/tosredesign -- note that this matches the 
>> theme at http://planet.teachingopensource.org. As you can tell from the 
>> images, it's not anywhere near done.
> 
> I like it and think it's an improvement, but I'd remove the yellow
> background highlights (I expect them to be links and they're not) and
> it would be great if we could see "free and open source software" in
> there more - free and software currently don't even appear in the
> page, so I suspect it won't appear in a search for "free software".
> 
> validator.w3.org says "The center element is obsolete. Use CSS instead."
> 
> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/validator?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmchua.fedorapeople.org%2Ftosredesign&profile=css21&usermedium=all&warning=1&vextwarning=&lang=en
> shows some more, but I'm not sure what CSS level you're aiming for.
> 
> Hope that helps,
> -- 
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