[TOS] Fwd: [EXT] Greetings to the GNU Education Project from the TOS community!
Don Davis
dondavis at reglue.org
Fri Mar 23 12:55:33 UTC 2012
I'm sorry if my remarks seem tribalistic. I think cooperation and
collaboration is important-- which is why I posted the initial message
from the FSF to the TOS list. As mentioned, I am a dues paying member
of the FSF. I believe what they do is important and I agree with much
of what they say. I also had reservations about the TOS list initially
due to the lacking F. (I am the sort of person who says GNU/Linux.)
However, Dora Scilipoti is more than just a person from the FSF - she
is selected as a liaison in coordinating and communicating with others
in regards to free software. She ranks and connotes more than just one
person - she is a selected voice of the organization. The selected
voice of the organization chosen to interface on the behalf of
education and correlate initiatives made comments that weren't merely
curt or concerned they were flippant and rude.
By all means, TOS / TFLOSS should work to collaborate with others. I
have found TOS / FLOSS to be the most active list and its members to
be the most identifiably active (by me) advocates/proponents of FOSS
in education for education.
On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 4:38 AM, Dave Neary <dneary at gnome.org> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> On 03/22/2012 11:07 PM, Don Davis wrote:
>>
>> Well, that seems unfortunately typical for the FSF. (I'm a dues paying
>> member, but...) I don't know that they have a real interested in
>> education. Responses I've received from FSF members and representatives
>> before included: (1) making source code available is how we'll improve
>> "Free" software education and (2) join Debian-edu. [1 won't change
>> things systemically and 2 - the Skole-Linux fellows seem to be great
>> guys but I don't know that stalking a Scandinavian/German list will help
>> bring about wide spread changes.]
>>
>> Her response is snippity and shows that she and similarly the FSF are
>> more interested in semantic (here completely unjustified) quibbling
>> rather than affecting change.
>
>
> I'd like people to avoid the assumption that one person's response is representative of either the organisation or all of its members.
>
> I know lots of great FSF and GNU people, and in general we're on the same side. Personally I prefer avoiding talking about topics like this, and focussing instead about what we have in common - a love of software freedom and a desire to teach people that sharing is better.
>
> Let's avoid all tribalism which only serves as a distraction from that common goal, shall we?
>
> Thanks!
> Dave.
>
> --
> Dave Neary
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